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	<title>Comments on: Discussion: story-hopping characters</title>
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	<description>the life and writerly times of Reesa Brown</description>
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		<title>By: Reesa</title>
		<link>http://reesabrown.com/2010/01/26/discussion-story-hopping-characters/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>Reesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrea - I think there were more that I "should have" thought of but didn't, so I understand the feeling. 


@Nathan - thanks for the elaboration on Bifnaz or whoever he was.  I like our talks about the different patterns we find in story!  Might have to do a larger post at some point about crossover characters and deconstruction crossover, fun stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrea - I think there were more that I &#8220;should have&#8221; thought of but didn&#8217;t, so I understand the feeling. </p>
<p>@Nathan - thanks for the elaboration on Bifnaz or whoever he was.  I like our talks about the different patterns we find in story!  Might have to do a larger post at some point about crossover characters and deconstruction crossover, fun stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Eliot</title>
		<link>http://reesabrown.com/2010/01/26/discussion-story-hopping-characters/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "same-world" series hoppers seem to be the shallow end of this trope; while in some cases the work done to combine the seires is impressive, in the end they require much less explanation. The deep end is most often visited by comic books, though Heinlein's World-As-Myth also lies there; the heavy-handed explanations for the crossovers therearen't quite as fun, for me, as characters like Flagg and Devera.

Fizban is a particularly annoying instance of this trope, showing up as &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Gate_Cycle#Zifnab_and_related_characters" rel="nofollow"&gt;Zanfib in the Deathgate Cycle&lt;/a&gt; by the same authors, whose explanations for why he isn't actually the same character are tortured, at best.

A related trope is the borrowed character, taken from public domain works, or used without permission for fanfic. Characters like Dracula, Merlin, and Robin Hood tend to reappear in more mythic fiction, though often reinterpreted in some way. The deep end there is what TV Tropes calls &lt;a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeconstructionCrossover" rel="nofollow"&gt;the deconstruction crossover&lt;/a&gt;; probably the best known example is "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen", which includes Mina Harker from Dracula, Jeckel/Hyde, the Invisible Man, and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;same-world&#8221; series hoppers seem to be the shallow end of this trope; while in some cases the work done to combine the seires is impressive, in the end they require much less explanation. The deep end is most often visited by comic books, though Heinlein&#8217;s World-As-Myth also lies there; the heavy-handed explanations for the crossovers therearen&#8217;t quite as fun, for me, as characters like Flagg and Devera.</p>
<p>Fizban is a particularly annoying instance of this trope, showing up as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Gate_Cycle#Zifnab_and_related_characters" rel="nofollow">Zanfib in the Deathgate Cycle</a> by the same authors, whose explanations for why he isn&#8217;t actually the same character are tortured, at best.</p>
<p>A related trope is the borrowed character, taken from public domain works, or used without permission for fanfic. Characters like Dracula, Merlin, and Robin Hood tend to reappear in more mythic fiction, though often reinterpreted in some way. The deep end there is what TV Tropes calls <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeconstructionCrossover" rel="nofollow">the deconstruction crossover</a>; probably the best known example is &#8220;The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen&#8221;, which includes Mina Harker from Dracula, Jeckel/Hyde, the Invisible Man, and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://reesabrown.com/2010/01/26/discussion-story-hopping-characters/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm having that odd mental feeling of having something right on the tip of my tongue err brain ... but darn if I can pull it forth. I know I know some examples of this and it always fills me with "in the club" glee when I notice/figure it out, but I just can't call them to mind right now. I blame the business plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having that odd mental feeling of having something right on the tip of my tongue err brain &#8230; but darn if I can pull it forth. I know I know some examples of this and it always fills me with &#8220;in the club&#8221; glee when I notice/figure it out, but I just can&#8217;t call them to mind right now. I blame the business plan.</p>
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